Episode 1708 – Thunderbolts: surprising twists

April 22, 2026  

Season 17

In a twist that no one saw coming, not even us, the villains in this movie are Val and Mel! 

Despite this, I thought Thunderbolts would be better. 🙁 However, the constant characters in this movie support a protagonist with a change arc, and fill archetypal roles in the movie. In another surprising twist – switching the villain in the end of the movie has a big impact on the effectiveness of the speech in praise of the villain. This episode has more twists and and turns than the MCU – and that is saying something! -M

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In the latest episode of the Story Nerd Podcast, hosts Valerie Francis and Melanie Hill dive deep into the art of storytelling, focusing on the roles of constant and change characters, using the Marvel film Thunderbolts as a case study. If you’ve ever struggled with character development or wondered how to create stories that resonate with your readers, this episode is a must-listen! Valerie, an experienced writer and story editor, emphasizes the importance of understanding storytelling principles. She notes that to write stories your readers will love, you need to grasp how other writers apply these principles and then implement them in your own work. This episode is particularly beneficial for writers of all genres, especially those who are part of a series, as Valerie and Melanie explore the necessity for each book in a series to stand on its own. Melanie, an editor and author, brings her insights to the table by analyzing the Thunderbolts movie. She highlights the film’s ensemble cast and discusses how constant characters complement change characters. This distinction is crucial for any writer looking to create dynamic, engaging narratives. The hosts argue that constant characters provide stability and context, allowing change characters to evolve meaningfully throughout the story. One of the key takeaways from the episode is the role of exposition in storytelling. Valerie shares her experience with Patricia Cornwell’s work, noting how exposition is necessary for catching new readers up on the story’s backstory. This is an essential skill for writers, especially those crafting series, as it ensures that new readers can dive into the story without feeling lost. The discussion also delves into the concept of the “speech in praise of the villain,” a technique that helps establish a formidable antagonist. Valerie critiques Thunderbolts for its handling of this concept, pointing out how the film introduces Valentina as a powerful villain but then shifts focus to another character, Bob, which can confuse viewers. This highlights the importance of consistency in storytelling and character roles. Overall, this episode is packed with valuable insights for writers at any stage of their journey. Whether you’re grappling with character development, plotting, or understanding the intricacies of exposition, Valerie and Melanie provide actionable advice that can help you refine your craft. So, if you’re ready to elevate your storytelling game, be sure to tune in to the latest episode of the Story Nerd Podcast!